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Post by Umbra on Jun 27, 2011 21:20:07 GMT -5
It's true that Namdai is unlikely to localize Vesperia PS3 PURELY because of the fans' petitions, but it could play a small part. How is Vesperia's PS3 release jeopardized in any way by petitioning fans? Above all else, a company will choose not to release a game if they see no profitable outcome from it, not because of some trivial thing.
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Post by Youngster Joey on Jun 27, 2011 21:31:47 GMT -5
Nothing important added in the port? Again, that's your personal opinion. No, I think Hiro has a point. There were a number of things added to the port, and for fans, that's a pretty big deal. However, the Tales fanbase is actually pretty small (despite what it would like to believe), and hence Namco needs to attract buyers outside of the fanbase as well in order to get Vesperia to sell well. While the new additions to the game are nice, I highly doubt those are enough to entice a buyer who 1) didn't want the game the first time to reconsider buying it, or 2) bought it the first time, thought it was okay but isn't a Tales fan overall to buy it a second time. Those are the people Namco needs to buy the games. Not the fanbase. The fanbase will buy the game anyway.
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Post by Hiro the Half-Elf on Jun 27, 2011 22:00:48 GMT -5
Just because you feel that way doesn't mean other fans do. If you don't like it, you shouldn't even have entered this section of the forum. Nothing important added in the port? Again, that's your personal opinion. I should think I'm allowed to give my two cents on a subject even if I don't like it, so long as I remain civil. I do try to always be civil. Never mind that I never presented that as my opinion, just a possible objection to following the vesperiaps3 twitter. I never stated my own feelings on the game in that post. And, well, sorry to be the one to splash cold water all over you, but I think unfounded optimism is foolish. It's fine to think positively, but at some point it becomes silly. Consider that the Tales fanbase is not large enough to provide the sales that Namco requires for a profitable game. Now consider that a significant portion of this fanbase has already played the 360 version, and a slightly smaller, but likely still significant portion would not buy a second edition of the game. Now consider that people outside the Tales fandom would not be quite so hot on a rerelease of a three-year old JRPG with anime art (and a small sect would even avoid it outright because of the franchise's reputation), and the ones who had already played the 360 version would most likely be less willing to purchase it again on top of that (an inference, but I'm willing to chance it). Now consider that a brand new [for the West] Tales game is coming out on the same system in a short while, which would further pull sales away from both the fanbase and the general gaming public. Meanwhile, Namco has already considered all this and is looking for a game that will sell in the hundred-thousands. They've had three years to think about how many copies of Vesperia PS3 they could possibly move. Now tell me, what are a couple hundred people on a twitter account going to do to effect a change in Namco's localization plans? Just sayin'. I do apologize for the sloppy description here, but I trust it does the job.
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Post by sukotsuto on Jun 28, 2011 1:26:56 GMT -5
I'd personally rather have unfounded optimism than relentless pessimism. "Only players are winners"- you're more likely to receive something if you want it, even if there's a really, really, really slim chance of it happening. Besides, unless one gets severely depressed from receiving news that a certain game is never going to get releasing stateside, it's no biggie. Even up to now, I'm hoping that they'd one day release all the Japan-only tales, support any petition for that slim chance, and even if that's never going to happen in 10 or 20 years (or never happen at all), I don't find it a waste of time to invest that 1-2 minutes signing that fun little petition. If it doesn't get released, well, I move on, but my mind still entertains the possibility. Did I regret hoping? No. Never.
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Post by Hiro the Half-Elf on Jun 28, 2011 11:09:21 GMT -5
Except that, due to the Tales fandom's high expectations, they've become the most ornery fanbase on the internet. They feel entitled to localizations but don't put out the numbers they say they will. Most of these people -don't- move on. Something isn't going to happen, but they cling to it and -whine- about it, instead of taking what they get (and, frankly, I think the two games we're already getting are a better deal than Vesperia PS3).
Regardless, I'm hardly pessimistic, simply realistic. It's not like I say it won't be released out of any grudge with Banco, like some fans have, I'm simply stating the most likely outcome.
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Post by sukotsuto on Jun 28, 2011 11:39:10 GMT -5
Let them be.
That's the kind of stuff that never really goes away, it happens in most fanbases I know, and it doesn't really happen that much here anyway (as compared to other sites). Good or bad fans, so long as the game or the series is being talked about a lot is sometimes simply enough, regardless of what's being said.
And so long as Namdai doesn't localize a certain "Tales of" games, there will be angry fans. The only way to keep most of them quiet? Release a "Tales of" game, simple as that. The lack of US-localized "Tales of" games had always an issue for the past decade, so a lot of people who love the series doesn't want it to stay like that.
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Post by Youngster Joey on Jun 28, 2011 12:16:01 GMT -5
The only way to keep most of them quiet? Release a "Tales of" game, simple as that. Consider the huge amount of money and time that would go into a game that would probably not sell so well anyway. There's nothing simple about that.
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Post by sukotsuto on Jun 28, 2011 12:19:17 GMT -5
The only way to keep most of them quiet? Release a "Tales of" game, simple as that. Consider the huge amount of money and time that would go into a game that would probably not sell so well anyway. There's nothing simple about that. I know. Just saying that the only real way to pacify them is to release it. If they don't release it? Then they won't be pacified. It all just comes down to that.
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Post by Hiro the Half-Elf on Jun 28, 2011 12:19:29 GMT -5
Considering that they're already releasing two tales games and it didn't abate the whining any, I don't think it's very effective.
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Post by codey on Apr 22, 2013 7:50:16 GMT -5
"Tales of Vesperia PS3 Localization will be suspending all operations by the end of next week. Namco Bandai through emails and phone calls have told me it's not coming, and the facebook page has just said so to the general public.
Tales of Vesperia PS3 is NOT BEING LOCALIZED
Maybe a further installment of Vesperia will be down the line.
For now, focus on other Tales games. Ones being released specifically. Especially Xillia which is being released this August.
I'll make a few more posts down the week, and this page will close at an undetermined date."
WHAAAT!? Noooooo my hopes! that..that`s..not fair. I don`t know maybe this was a good thing or not. what do you think guys?
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Post by Youngster Joey on Apr 22, 2013 8:14:32 GMT -5
We already got the game on Xbox, and we got two games after that. I think people ought to be appreciative of what we did get :S
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Post by PanbanRichard on Apr 22, 2013 9:25:39 GMT -5
Yeah, unfortunately the localization team shot themselves in the foot when Namdai announced Vesperia for the PS3. It's understandable, as no one expected the port when it was announced--not that I know how the communication goes between Namdai Japan and Namdai America.
Bottom line, they've learned their lesson, and they waited for the enhanced Graces port to localize. Hopefully, the Namdai localization team will continue to release the enhanced ports in the future.
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