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Post by Youngster Joey on May 29, 2012 0:45:35 GMT -5
Considering how many words there are in any given language, learning only one word per day is a good way to be fluent after a couple decades :X
According to the flashcards I have on quizlet, I've learned about 2,000 words over two semesters, not counting the words I knew before starting in a university course (I did a year's equivalent in six weeks at an Athenian language school). I'm certainly not fluent in any respect.
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Post by supersonic1453 on May 29, 2012 7:17:40 GMT -5
Hate flash cards.
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Post by Hiro the Half-Elf on May 29, 2012 14:35:32 GMT -5
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Post by Youngster Joey on May 29, 2012 15:13:35 GMT -5
well, fυck you, too
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Post by Umbra on May 29, 2012 17:34:41 GMT -5
Well, looks like I would be looking over this thread next semester, as I enrolled in both Spanish and Japanese, never having learned any language officially before (except maybe English at school or something). I heard that if you memorize a word a day for every language you're learning, it would help you learn the language faster. At least, that's how a certain linguist went about being able to be good enough at numerous languages to be able to converse in such a short time. With that method, you learn around 365 new words a year... and that would lead up to 3,650 words in 10 years. While learning one word a day may sound like a good approach to learning vocabulary, you have to consider that, after a while, you will forget certain words that you've learned before. So on top of the memorization of new vocabulary everyday, you would want to constantly review the words you have learned. However, as it would seem, as your vocab pool increases, the review sessions would have to become longer to retain 100 percent of words you have learned. In the end I think how you learn and memorize words is what matters. If you use flash cards to drill words into your head with no method other than constant repetition, granted, you will learn those words, but they probably won't stay in your long-term memory forever unless you use the words regularly. I think in the case of memorizing vocabulary, mnemonic association and some form of immersion within the language (which includes reading and/or speaking the language regularly) are the best ways, in my opinion.
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Post by sukotsuto on May 30, 2012 1:17:02 GMT -5
I don't think it's necessary to retain 100 percent of the words - just keep learning the words even if you'll retain a fraction in the end. Malcolm X copied a dictionary word by word while in prison to cope with boredom. Will he be able to remember all the dictionary words? Of course not, but thanks to that exercise he did, he was able to retain a lot in his mind.
As far as anything mnemonic, I just draw a related image in my notebook and I remember, regardless on what subject I'm learning from.
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Post by Captain Zelar on May 30, 2012 1:23:38 GMT -5
I am a good mnemonic learner when it comes to random poetry but not so much with languages.
I always drew little pictures with my flashcards which actually did help.
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Post by Hiro the Half-Elf on May 30, 2012 1:57:35 GMT -5
I don't think it's necessary to retain 100 percent of the words - just keep learning the words even if you'll retain a fraction in the end. Malcolm X copied a dictionary word by word while in prison to cope with boredom. Will he be able to remember all the dictionary words? Of course not, but thanks to that exercise he did, he was able to retain a lot in his mind. Malcom X was not learning a foreign language. The concept is completely different.
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Post by sukotsuto on May 30, 2012 2:57:35 GMT -5
I don't think it's necessary to retain 100 percent of the words - just keep learning the words even if you'll retain a fraction in the end. Malcolm X copied a dictionary word by word while in prison to cope with boredom. Will he be able to remember all the dictionary words? Of course not, but thanks to that exercise he did, he was able to retain a lot in his mind. Malcom X was not learning a foreign language. The concept is completely different. Foreign or not, language is language.
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Post by supersonic1453 on May 30, 2012 11:01:04 GMT -5
Not really. The concepts and sentence structures could be completely different. Not to mention any dissimilarity between words. He was writing a language he already knew how to read and speak.
Also hate mnemonic devices. Te-form song can suck it.
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Post by sukotsuto on Dec 6, 2012 21:34:23 GMT -5
lol I'm not really following into learning a new foreign word that closely, but I do try as many as I can, and it's helping me A LOT. Even if I can't recall a word at will or know its dictionary meaning, when it pops up, everything starts flowing. I'm was taking both Spanish and Japanese this fall semester, and although it's a total b**ch to learn two totally different languages at the same time, it's a total trip to be able to understand a lot of what I'm hearing from either languages, and do good in both classes. I'm kind of neglecting Japanese, since Spanish has more appeal to me now. Yo hablo español poco (o algo?), pero empiezo entender mucho. Voy a ir a lugares como México para una buena amiga mío. It also helps that mi maestra y amiga gives me dirty examples, which makes remembering certain words WAY easier
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Post by Umbra on Dec 7, 2012 14:36:39 GMT -5
I'm probably not going to consider trying to learn another language as long as I'm studying Japanese. There are just so many facets of the Japanese language that it takes so much commitment. (vocab, grammar, 3 writing systems, dialects, etc.)
I'm not saying it's not possible to learn Japanese and another language simultaniously, but I would think that fluency would come first in the other language (unless it's another level-4 language.)
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