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Post by Friendly Person :) on Dec 8, 2016 20:30:40 GMT -5
So I guess this is a thing: www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zw2oVRr3MsI'd be curious to hear the reasoning behind this change. It's very bizarre after this quote: "I believe that those who support the Tales Of series like to have exactly the same content as the Japanese version. We believe it’s ideal and the best option to bring exactly the same game experience and design to the western countries." - Producer Yasuhiro Fukaya* Guess not? I think the scene actually loses a lot of emotional impact in the change. It's nowhere near as real, and as such, carries a lot less emotional weight. Also it's just goofy to go through all that when you can just STAB HIM, COME ON MAN, YOU'RE HOLDING A SWORD FOR CHRIST'S SAKE. * www.dualshockers.com/2016/04/22/tales-of-berseria-velvets-outfit-wont-be-censored-producer-thinks-fans-want-the-original-experience/
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Post by Friendly Person :) on Dec 9, 2016 14:26:52 GMT -5
Update: "The violence depicted in the original Japanese scene in Tales of Berseria would not allow us to keep our current 16 rating." Interesting choice, since I'm assuming "16" implies a PEGI rating, since ESRB's "Teen" is for 13+. So I guess this is more of a European choice than an American one, though so far as I can tell, the change still applies to all versions (Actually, one of the comments highly implies it). It's interesting though that they actually redesigned the whole scene. That's way more work than simply, say, cutting away and leaving the events implied. Question for anyone who has experience with the PEGI system: is there a large difference between a 16+ and an 18+? Here the difference between an ESRB T and M is basically non-existent (Call of Duty is M, and you won't find a larger concentration of early teens online), but the difference between M and AO is a genuine death-sentence. - edit - I JUST WANTED TO POST A LINK FACEBOOK, WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?
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Derman
Oracle Knight
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Post by Derman on Dec 9, 2016 17:25:50 GMT -5
Initial reaction: BS... the change in the scene is just too much to justify the censorship.
After some thinking: I've never ran into trouble with buying games underage or anything, but often it seems parents are more concerned about their kids playing too violent games. In my experience though, 18+ is reserved for actually brutal or disturbing games, like Doom or Outlast and stuff like that. I'm not 100% sure but I think many of the CoD games are 16+. So are they removing the scene because they want to fit into the 16+? If they want to get lower then I can maybe understand, although I still would disagree with the decision, after all they want to reach as large audience as possible to justify the localization.
The way they made the scene in the localized version is actually pretty bad. To me it seems that the girl is floating in the middle of that hole but in the next shot she's near the edge where Velvet grabs her.
Who knows what they are thinking when doing these. I'm don't even know if it's just them being extremely careful or if the rating board specifically pointed the scene out.
I should also add: I've seen so many Watch Dogs 2, GTAV, Titanfall 2 and CoD: Infinite Warfare ads in the streets and stores and TV and everywhere that I don't think the rating has anything to do with visibility, at least not here.
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Post by Friendly Person :) on Dec 9, 2016 18:30:38 GMT -5
I don't know why they don't just release an un-edited version on Steam, since Steam actually doesn't require a rating for games to be on it. No rating, no problem, right? Plus that way people who want the censored version get it, while everyone else gets what they want. It's a win-win. If they do that, I'm okay with it.
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